When Mark visited the podcast, he shared a quick, intuitive exercise he asked some of his depressed clients to do every day.
Mark Goulston knows a thing or two about how to mentally survive crisis. In over 25 years, he never lost a suicidal patient. While on Radical Ones, I asked him if he had a specific tool he'd like to share that could help folks stay mentally healthy during the COVID-19 pandemic.
Mark immediately brought up Russell Bishop's Five Steps. Excerpt from the podcast below.
Episode #1 - What We Don't Know... about Mentally Surviving and Supporting during COVID with Mark Goulston
Xander Schultz: [00:00:00] All right. Dr Goulston, super appreciative of you taking the time.
You worked in suicide prevention for a long time as a psychiatrist, and you were famously successful in doing so. During this time where people are incredibly stressed out who should we be worrying about the most? Who should we be checking in with?
Mark Goulston: [00:00:50] A friend of mine had a great phrase. She says, "we always guard our calendar". When we have an appointment or we have something on our calendar of what exercise, if it's on our calendar, we do it.
So what I would say is I would calendar an hour a day and that hour you start with your closest circle and since things are changing, you communicate with them, in the way you do, whether it's text or email, and what you say is "Just checking to see if you're okay?". That's a different statement than saying "How are you doing?". Because when you say, "How are you doing" it almost is similar to those kind of empty or ways we greet people. "Hey, how you doing?" "Oh, I'm good. How are you?"